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		<title>By: Life as a Physicist &#187; More On Competition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life as a Physicist &#187; More On Competition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tommaso&#039;s and my posts on the Bs rivalry got picked up by the Cosmic Variance blog in, ironically, a post talking about sociology&#160;(I have got to update the look on my blog; ugly compared to everyone else!). One of the things both Tommaso and I discussed is what it takes to get a result out of a large experimental collaboration. The comments to the Cosmic Variance post picked up on some of this. In particular, there were several comments that could be summed up by this one&#160;by Scott O: The SNO collaboration goes a step further still. It is collaboration policy not to show any result in public unless it has both gone through extensive internal review and has been submitted for publication to a refereed journal. In other words, there is no such thing as a &#8220;SNO preliminary result&#8221;. The attitude is that if it&#8217;s not ready to submit for publication, it&#8217;s not ready to show in public either. Obviously this slows down the publication process, but personally I think there&#8217;s a lot of be said for it as well. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tommaso&#39;s and my posts on the Bs rivalry got picked up by the Cosmic Variance blog in, ironically, a post talking about sociology&nbsp;(I have got to update the look on my blog; ugly compared to everyone else!). One of the things both Tommaso and I discussed is what it takes to get a result out of a large experimental collaboration. The comments to the Cosmic Variance post picked up on some of this. In particular, there were several comments that could be summed up by this one&nbsp;by Scott O: The SNO collaboration goes a step further still. It is collaboration policy not to show any result in public unless it has both gone through extensive internal review and has been submitted for publication to a refereed journal. In other words, there is no such thing as a &ldquo;SNO preliminary result&rdquo;. The attitude is that if it&rsquo;s not ready to submit for publication, it&rsquo;s not ready to show in public either. Obviously this slows down the publication process, but personally I think there&rsquo;s a lot of be said for it as well. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Life as a Physicist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CDF Nails It!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life as a Physicist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CDF Nails It!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Along the&#160;x axis&#160;is the difference in mass between a Bs meson (a B meson containing a b and a s quark) and its anti-matter&#160;partner, the anti-Bs meson.&#160;The y-axis is the amplitude, but for sake of brevity, I&#039;ll call it the probability (I&#039;m being very sloppy here!). Tommaso goes into a good deal of detail&#160;in his post, so I won&#039;t repeat it here. You can see how CDF&#039;s data resolves the high-probability peak much (at 17.25 ps-1) much better than D0 does (at 19 ps-1). That is for all the reasons we previously talked about both on this blog and on Tommaso&#039;s blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Along the&nbsp;x axis&nbsp;is the difference in mass between a Bs meson (a B meson containing a b and a s quark) and its anti-matter&nbsp;partner, the anti-Bs meson.&nbsp;The y-axis is the amplitude, but for sake of brevity, I&#39;ll call it the probability (I&#39;m being very sloppy here!). Tommaso goes into a good deal of detail&nbsp;in his post, so I won&#39;t repeat it here. You can see how CDF&#39;s data resolves the high-probability peak much (at 17.25 ps-1) much better than D0 does (at 19 ps-1). That is for all the reasons we previously talked about both on this blog and on Tommaso&#39;s blog. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Experimental sociology &#124; Cosmic Variance</title>
		<link>http://gordonwatts.wordpress.com/2006/04/10/on-competition/#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Experimental sociology &#124; Cosmic Variance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A little late, but I didn&#8217;t want to let slip this interesting discussion about the agonizing process of making experimental particle physics results ready for public consumption from Tomaso Dorrigo and Gordon Watts. You&#8217;ll recall that we mentioned a couple of weeks ago the new results from Fermilab&#8217;s Tevatron on B-mixing, a measurement that puts interesting new constraints on the possibilities for physics beyond the Standard Model. The first announcement was from the D0 (&#8221;D-Zero&#8221;) experiment; as Collin pointed out in the comments, the CDF experiment followed with their own results soon thereafter. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A little late, but I didn&#8217;t want to let slip this interesting discussion about the agonizing process of making experimental particle physics results ready for public consumption from Tomaso Dorrigo and Gordon Watts. You&#8217;ll recall that we mentioned a couple of weeks ago the new results from Fermilab&#8217;s Tevatron on B-mixing, a measurement that puts interesting new constraints on the possibilities for physics beyond the Standard Model. The first announcement was from the D0 (&#8221;D-Zero&#8221;) experiment; as Collin pointed out in the comments, the CDF experiment followed with their own results soon thereafter. [...]</p>
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